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  CNN    Piers Morgan Tonight    News/Business.  (2013)  

    January 1, 2013
    9:00 - 10:00pm PST  

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new president address the nation tonight moments after a history making vote on the house floor in favor of a bill to avert the fiscal cliff. the president said there wasn't enough time or support for a larger deal after a long day of will they or won't they, late tonight house leadership, decided to bring the senate bill to the floor for an up or down vote in the past year largely on partisan lines however. 257 votes in favor, 167 against. 85 republicans voted in favor of the bill. the bill now heads to the president's desk where he is expected to sign it. here is some of what is in it. tax rates stay the same for couples making less than for under $50,000. itemize deductions for married couples making more than $300,000. a one year extension on unemployment insurance and an increase in the estate tax from 35% to 40%. and the alternative minimum tax would be permanently adjusted for inflation.
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the deal still left a few big issues on the table. kicked the can two months on the automatic spending cuts. set to go into effect tomorrow and it did not address the debt ceiling care now time for "piers morgan tonight." the biggest names of 2012, my conversations with world leaders. the question was do you believe that israel -- >> i will get to that answer please, don't be in such a very. >> you trust ahmadinejad? >> not on this at all. >> headline makers. >> this is more important than any election. >> if the president did know what happened, he should have. >> i was the perfect candidate for america. >> what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people is
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really a foreign idea. >> and more. >> it is ridiculously easy for someone to purchase a gun. >> do you think homosexuality is a san? >> i think it -- it is a natural. >> could you wake up this morning and have a quick, you know? >> what day is it. >> the newsmakers starts now. good evening. one of the great things about my job is i get to sit down with movers and shakers, men and women in the biggest stories of the year. newsmakers, celebrities, and people never expected to find themselves in a spot like. they are all utterly fascinating. tonight you'll hear from some of my favorite guests. we begin with the big man himself, chris christie. in the wake of superstar center, he found himself in a bed of hot water for making nice with president obama. >> breaking news tonight, super
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storms and the crashing ashore and southern new jersey in the last hour. >> i watched these extraordinary scenes over new jersey today. really quite unprecedented, have you ever seen anything like this in your lifetime? >> no, i haven't appeared you see sites like this seaside heights boardwalk where the program with the jersey shore is is filmed. the boardwalk is gone. it is gone. amusement rides, the roller-coaster in the ocean. it is incredible. homes destroyed. it is an awful thing. >> you have taken charge as you always have done in these situations in a very impressive way. if people have been surprised that you have been so outspokenly supportive and praiseworthy to the president. i am not surprised knowing you. explain to me why you were happy to do that so close to an
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election when some might say physically that wasn't the best thing to do. >> it is much more important than any election, this is the lovely head of the people in my state. when the president does things that deserve praise, i will give him praise and when the president does things that deserves corn, i will give him scorn. i think people know that about me but i will not play politics with this issue. this is bigger than an election. this is the livelihood of the people of my state. with the expect me to do is get the job done and when someone asks me a question i give an honest answer. the president has been outstanding to deal with on this and i look forward to seeing him tomorrow so he can see for himself with this hurricane has done to my state. >> breaking news on the attack in libya that killed the ambassador. the terrorists and chief says it was a terrorist attack. >> clearly his death continues
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to reverberate and the truth or otherwise of circumstances leading up to his death still seem to be pretty vague to put it mildly. what do you think we are with this. >> let me tell you what is not vague and that is five days, five days after what's was very quickly determined by the intelligence committee is a terrorist attack, they trotted out to every major news outlets saying this was a spontaneous demonstration because of a video. that is one of the worst things i have ever observed in my life and obviously, there were warnings. obviously anybody who believes an attack with mortars and rocket-propelled grenades and very sophisticated attack is resolved to the video, is ridiculous. and finally, it is not the video stoking these demonstrations. is the radical islamists better
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using the videos as a means of enslaving passion in the middle east and i am not ready to abandon the freedom of speech because it might offend the profit mohammed. >> we have heard calls for ambassador arrives to resign. are you in favor of back? >> now, i think that is shooting the messenger. she was told to go out and do that. i blame the secretary of state. i blame the operatives and the white house and i blame our national security adviser. if the president did know exactly what happens, he should have. >> david petraeus, he steps down after admitting to cheating on his wife. new information on the stunning resignation. >> there is a theory that we had great generals, macarthur, patton, eisenhower. they all had affairs. certainly modern digital era
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unraveling all of this stuff. would you say to that? >> i don't think the idea, the problem is that general petraeus had an affair. the idea in the big problem is that he was director of the cia and he walked right into one of the most black mailable situations you could have. to the cia found out about it before the russians or the chinese. not that he is a general messing around and according to the uniform code of military justice that is not allowed. that is not what the press is focused on. they are focused on the cia director having this problem. >> 36 days to go until tax increases kick in, white house and congress playing a high-stakes game of let's make a deal. >> only you in america believes there has to be what i believe to be really farcical now, absolute things about this. surely the nature of the modern
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world is very fast moving, it is changing a lot. america clearly has huge economic problems heading for another fiscal cliff. everyone laughing at you from afar. the american public sick and tired of all the teams going on and there are you, a very bright guy still resolutely sang a pledge is a pledge, it cannot be broken when many of your own party are now saying it doesn't make sense. to just have this irresolute position anymore. >> two things. the pledges not for life pick anybody sign the pledge including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him, i hope his wife understands that commitments last longer than two years or something. the commitment from the plant. >> hang on, hang on. that was below the belt. >> if you think a commitment only is not for as long as you make it for, the commitment for the pledge as peter king well
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knows, when he signed it, is that as long as you are in congress, you will rein in spending and reform government, not raise taxes. it is not for 500 years are two generations. only as long as you are in the house or the senate. he stayed too long that is his problem. you don't tell the bank the mortgage, wasn't that a long time ago? if you make a commitment, you keep it. >> coming up, was met ronnie done in by his own party? the republican presidential candidates may have inflicted mortal damage on him. >> this will go back to the empty chair, he was going to be talking to me tonight about why he said what he said about women. since it is just the chair, as well toss a few questions that appear my question would have been why we use such an offensive idiot to women and the second obvious question, which has to go to the chair, would be why haven't you resigned yet? anyway, let's leave it there, shall we? so we switched to the bargain detergent
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struggles, i returned to the white house more determined and more inspired than ever about the work there is to do, and the future that lies ahead. >> president obama delivering his victory speech and in the end of the race wasn't close. maybe mitt romney never had a chance pierpont his fellow contenders feasting on one of their own during the primaries. >> isn't the american way that is somebody gives you a smack on the nose, you eventually have to smack them back? and isn't it time now for you to except that this negativity has pounded you into a position where much as you would like to keep it positive, isn't it time you got the gingrich this out and gave romney a smack? >> harry truman in his great reelection campaign when he was so far behind that they quit taking polls in mid september went after the dewey and the crowd would yell out, and he
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would yell back tell them the truth and with governor ramen, his record is so bad and he has become so clearly a moderate and so many things that are indefensible, it would be okay in a democratic primary, and a republican primary it would be indefensible, all he has to do is tell the truth. i have to point out facts and i think the next few weeks will be a lot of fun. it will be very interesting. waylon request is that he be honest with the country. >> america clearly need someone with a good business bring. the economy remains in the tank. you went after mitt romney today about his work at bain capital. you called him a greedy wall street so and so. was that the most sensible position calling him a vulture? should you be on that side of the client given that you are a successful texas governor and a good businessman yourself?
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if mitt romney now wins the nomination, haven't you just landed barack obama a perfect stick to beat him with? >> there is a real difference between a venture-capital list and a culture capitalist, then to capitalists are good, they go and and inject their capital. they create jobs. thing capital appears to me were vulture capitalists are all too often. i don't get confused for a minute that barack obama and his team wouldn't attack mitt romney on that during a general election if he makes it that way. if nothing else we are doing him a favor by exposing him early on so that he can neither figure out how to defend that or more portly, and better for my perspective, he is not the nominee to begin with. >> rush limbaugh did call a loss to the prostitute for wanting to have insurance cover for her contraception and i presume you wouldn't be that as either
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entertaining. >> of course, not. as i said before. again, and i am not going to stand -- i don't want to spend my time talking about how we can grow the economy. what i would like to talk about it is governor romney out there for almost a year telling the people that republican primary that he never advocated that romney care would be a federal model. he never advocated for an individual mandate that a government that the federal level require people to buy insurance. and now we find on several occasions in the past week article after article, interview after interview where governor romney tested that in 2009. to me that is offensive. >> is he a liar then? >> this goes to the snobbish issue, which is she clearly did not tell the truth.
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you don't necessarily go and accuse the person on a personal level. you describe the action. i did and accurately described governor romney did not tell the truth to the republicans at the debate serially telling people that he did not do what we now know he did repeatedly. >> unless i am mistaken, not telling the truth repeatedly is line, isn't it? >> well, i will let you frame that one and take responsibility for it. i said all i am going to say on this. >> are you disappointed there is no bonafide tea party candidate left in the race? >> i am very happy to get behind any of these candidates because i wanted the unifying voice. we will unify as a party. we surely will be battening down the hatches behind whoever the standard bearer will be. i will be happy to back that kennedy. >> my guess is if you sat down to dinner, the person you would
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be nodding with most would be rick santorum. with that be a misreading? >> i like camelot but i like mitt romney, new printers, unlike the mall. >> could you must agree with? >> my opinions were fairly forthright throughout the debate and i felt quite honestly i was the perfect candidate for america. but that didn't happen. quite honestly, whichever candidate is, i will be happy to back. >> if you are in the vanguard against obamacare, mitt romney is the least of the four candidate she would personally endorse because of his own health care plan. >> that is the positive difference i made in the campaign. mitt romney's answer is he will get behind a full-scale repeal. the matter who the nominee is, they'll committed verbally to repeal of obamacare and now it is up to us to hold our nominees feet to the fire. >> talking of competition, let
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me put my own doctor had. if i was prescribing medicine for you right now i think i would say the situation is looking terminal for your race to be the gop nominee. why don't you do the decent thing and pull out, why are you staying in the race? >> why don't you do the decent thing and not pester me with silly questions like that? that would be decent to view. >> it is not that silly. the latest poll as you at 9%. mitt romney at 39%. >> wait, what you're looking for and we are doing quite well. >> let's see how well you're doing. mitt romney, 568 delegates. ron paul 71. >> what about the states where they are still working through the process which is most of them. you know whether it is up in maine or we are doing very well in the state of washington.
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north dakota excellent now in the that appeared even the other day, some good news can offer us that through the process our people are in the right places and they are doing the things to become a delegate. it is way too soon for you to write anybody off. besides, just because somebody is in second or third place, there is a race going on. what if mitt romney isn't the best person? >> people have tried to portray u.s. a kind of with less money machine, who some fail, some succeeded kicky didn't care, you got your fees. you made a lot of money. quite a few companies failed and a lot of people lost their jobs and livelihoods. to me the key question is, do you know instinctively from your recollections how many of those companies that you went into law have failed anyway if you hadn't? >> there is no question but that
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a number of places where we went in and invest it, we were investing in an enterprise that was in trouble. with the future was very much in doubt for it and we invested in one business that lost 50 or $60 million more the year before we invested and a lot of people didn't want to touch it. we were able to go in there with the current management team, helped get the business back on track. the managers' training but they were able to turn it around as a success and it is still around today doing quite well. provides jobs for a lot of people. the idea that somehow making a business profitable is different than helping people is really a foreign idea because the whole american free enterprise system is associated with creating success, making business is profitable. they can hire more people and growth. every investment that i made while i was responsible for an investment firm, every investment was designed to help the business grow and to become
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more successful. >> up next, one of my most frustrating interviews. one of the most feared man in the world. >> one of the best night's was. >> >> i think that is your has been lending. >> it is, how funny is that? >> how funny is that? >> let's keep the camera rolling, actually. this interview has just been interrupted by vice-president biden coming over our heads and wrecking his wife's interview. but with those single mile travel cards... [ bridesmaid ] blacked out... but i'm a bridesmaid. oh! "x" marks the spot she'll never sit. but i bought a dress! a toast... ...to the capital one venture card. fly any airline, any flight, anytime. double miles you can actually use. what a coincidence? what's in your wallet? [ all screaming ] watch the elbows ladies.
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of all the people interviewed this year, nobody is as decisive and hated as mahmoud ahmadinejad. americans consider him public enemy number one, his answers were fascinating. i asked what he thought of israel, and then i asked other leaders what they thought about him. looking live at new york city, home of the united nations. world leaders from 93 countries are gathering for a meeting. president mahmoud ahmadinejad will address the meeting, with blistering words. >> you have been condemned strongly in america for a comment you are said to have made that you wanted israel to be wiped off the map.
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wiped off the face of the earth. there would be many different interpretations of what you said. you have disputed the meaning that was then translated from the original farsi. let me give you this opportunity to say exactly what you did say, and to say exactly what you did mean. >> we have been condemned in the united states for many things. for having deposed a dictator with the revolution. for having sought freedom and free elections. for not allowing our oil and national treasure to leave our country freely. in -- for having stood up to very dangerous terrorists in the region. for having stood up against saddam hussein who enjoyed the
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back of many, we stood up against him. we have been condemned for a great many things because we said justice for all. the rule of law for all. the right of peaceful nuclear energy for all. >> but do you want -- mr. president, do you want -- >> allow me, sir, allow me, please. >> but the question was not any of that. the question was do you believe that israel -- >> but i will get to that answer, please, don't be in such a hurry. >> should israel be wiped off the face of the map? is that your desire? >> if a group comes and occupies the united states of america, destroyed homes while women and children are in those homes, incarcerate the youth of america. impose five different wars on many neighbors. and always threaten others, what
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would you do? what would you say? would you help it? would you help that entity? or would you help the people of the united states? so when we say -- when we say to be wiped, we say for occupation to be wiped off from this world. for war-seeking to be wiped off and eradicated, the killing of women and children to be eradicated. and we propose the way, we proposed the path. >> what they're really saying is in spite of the fact that we deny the holocaust, that we threaten israel and demonize the united states, we do all this stuff, we want you to trust us. in spite of the fact that we won't cooperate with the international regime set-up to avoid an arms race in the middle east, and set up to avoid
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nuclear proliferation. nobody believes them because they don't have a tenable position. >> do you trust mahmoud ahmadinejad? >> not on this, i don't. >> his argument is why should not america be allowed nuclear weapons? why should israel, who admits they have them, why should they be permitted to have the nuclear weapons and not iran. >> well then, why isn't he going for a bigger proliferation initiative, instead of he is acting like getting rid of the nuclear bomb, no serious person believes that. >> president mahmoud ahmadinejad struck a strangely mollified tone, more than in recent years on this position. one theory being that he is generally concerned that israel may do a pre-emptive strike, and nobody can control what happens next. the sanctions can really be
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biting, all the exports, and to the banks, may be hurting iran and he is getting heat from his own people, what do you think? >> well, i think he will get a certain amount of heat from some people, because no doubt, the sanctions are having a bigger effect. and indeed, i think next month for the first time iraq will actually export more oil than iran. so you know, the whole balance of power in terms of the oil production in the region is changing because of the sanctions. on the other hand i think the recent report of the atomic energy, there is no evidence that it is release -- the whole thing, the regime, does things and holds views that most people in the region find unacceptable. >> if we cut off iran's ability to export oil, and -- which would face them with a prospect of devastating economic blow, then i think that would be an
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inevitable move to war. and i think it would be a very serious mistake. >> i mean, you deliberately avoided any kind of military conflict with iran when you were president? >> yes, i did, i was advised by many of my people to go to war with iran, to bomb them and punish them. >> do you think it was the right decision? >> i do, because everybody came home, nobody was killed. and to the tragedy in newtown, and what may be the most controversial topic of the year, guns in america. [ male announcer ] this is sheldon, whose long dy setting up the news starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news.
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2012, they will be remembered as the year of the gun, the roll call of victims of gun violence in america was truly shocking from aurora, colorado, to the temple in wisconsin, to sandy hook elementary school. 26 people were killed, 20 of them first graders. breaking news, looking live at a community in mourning and shock after one of the worst mass shootings in american history. a gunman walked into sandy hook elementary school in newtown, connecticut, and opened fire. >> he came late in life, jesse was my son, but he was my best friend and buddy too. my little boy said something the night before to me and he said dad, this is going to be the best christmas ever. and he was -- going on about it. and i said jesse, you know, it
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is, you know, we'll make it the best we can. and i don't have much family. so it is kind of a quiet time for me. and he makes -- made christmas happy for me, and joyful. and he made it what it was. and i said to him, jesse, we'll make it the best we can. and the next day, this tragedy happened that occurred. and i thought to myself, boy, was he wrong about that. >> the ar-15, as we have now seen from the last mass shootings in america, aurora, the shopping mall, and now sandy hook elementary school, it is the weapon of choice for people who want to fire hundreds of bullets at the right speed if
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you have the right magazines. the president of the united states has indicated he wants to ban assault weapons like this? what is your view? >> i think we need to ban gun control laws that keep people from protecting themselves. the problem is not going to go away if we ban this or that gun, it doesn't work, doesn't even work in new england. you have had mass murders in england, mass murders -- people need to be able to defend themselves at the point of the crime and not wait for 20 minutes for the police to come when everybody is dead. >> when you said is an absolutely, the gun murder rate in countries like britain or germany or australia who have all suffered massacres many years ago of a similar nature. there are 35 people killed a year, your country is 12,000. >> your murder rate is lower than ours, that is true, your violent crime rate -- your violent crime rate. >> and they got rid of these all
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the weapons. >> as is the violent crime rate in australia. america is not the wild west that you are depicting, we only have the problem in our cities, and unhappily in our schools where people like you have been able to get laws put on the books that keep people from being able to defend themselves. i honestly don't understand why you would rather have people be victims of a crime than be able to defend things. it is -- >> you are a very stupid man, aren't you? >> it seems to me you are morally obtuse, you seem to be able to prevail over the criminal element. i don't know why you want to be the criminal's friend. >> what a ridiculous argument. it left at least a dozen people dead and 59 others injured. all the victims wanted was to see the new batman film.
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the killer opened fire when they were at the premier. jamie, did you think you were going to get out alive, or did you fear everyone was going to die in there? >> no, my thought was, this is how it ends, this is how i die. this can't be the way how i die, this can't be the way my son dies. he is four months. and this can't be the way -- my girlfriend dies, and our stepdaughter dies. she is four years, and just so many things pacing through your head. but every time you see a gunshot, you see -- i see it through the corner of my eyes, see somebody drop. and i'm trying to like duck -- like just trying to get out of the way. and people are falling next to me but i'm still all right. and just thinking -- this is it. >> every time one of these things happens, gabrielle
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giffords' shooting last year, there is an outrage, and then very quickly it dissipates, the american people go back to their normal life and don't demand action in the way i would expect them to. why do so many americans not feel angry enough to demand further gun control? >> well, i would take it a step further. i don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say we're going to go on strike? we're not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what is required to keep us safe. after all, police officers want to go home to their families. and we're doing everything we can to make their job more difficult, but more importantly more dangerous by leaving guns in the hands of people who should not have them. >> big story tonight, trayvon martin, shot at close range, but was it self defense? the parents' reaction to the extraordinary video on the night
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of the shooting. we'll talk with trayvon martin's parents in just a moment. from everything that you have seen, that you have read, that you have heard, what do you believe is the most likely set of circumstances that led to your son being killed? >> i believe that george zimmerman hunted my son like an animal. tried to detain my son. my son tried to get away. and because he could not detain my son, an altercation happened and my son was shot and killed. >> if we reverse this situation and it was your brother who had been gunned down in exactly the same set of circumstances, and the worst that had happened, as far as behavior was that he had been followed and he had got into an altercation, and he was unarmed. he just had a bag of skittles on him, and a guy who was much
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older followed him in the street, pulled out a gun and shot him dead. would you not at the very least if you're honest and candid about this, would you not have expected that person to have at least be arrested? to at least face some kind of trial where the full evidence could come out? >> well, you know, i take -- i take a pause to that whole you know, conjecture of pulled out the gun and shot him. that is not fact. >> this is what happened. >> no, it is not what happened. >> he did pull out a gun and shoot him. >> well, he stopped somebody from pulling out a gun and shooting him, george showed tremendous restraint. >> but he had a gun on him. >> he had permit to carry the gun. >> where was that gun? >> the gun i believe was tucked inside his pant leg -- >> right, so he has pulled it out and has fired it >> well, he has taken control of his firearm.
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he prevented his firearm from being taken from him and used against him, and that is called saving your life. >> so a week after kansas city chief jovan belcher killed the mother of his child and killed himself. 17% or more of footballers apparently carry guns? >> uh-huh. >> clearly, most of them have a lot of money. they drive fast cars go to night clubs and party, a and all the rest of it. again, i guess it comes back to an overriding sense, the culture of the game is slightly out of control, at least the statistics suggest that, what can you do about it? >> i'm not sure what can be done exactly. the nfl prohibits guns being carried at any facility, practice facility, any event where they make a public relations appearance, in the
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stadium. i don't know how closely they do enforce it. they do prohibit it. and they do tell the players in the stated policy that while it is legal to possess a gun we actually urge you not to. but we urge you that if you do possess a gun that you use it strictly for protection of home and family. or possibly if you're a hunter. it is more likely that something bad will happen if you're armed than that something good will happen. >> coming up, is america becoming more liberal? the debates, and what they say about this country. companies like microsoft, american red cross and adobe - to create options for you. not only that, we're using what we learn from these partners to shape our curriculum, so that when you find the job you want you'll be a perfect fit. let's get to work.
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two monumental shifts in american culture in 2012, two
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states voted to legalize marijuana, and states have same-sex marriage legalization. and more on the stunning admission, president obama now supports same-sex marriage. the support for gay marriage, how much is personal? how much is political? is this a game-changer? just yesterday, clay aiken said he wishes president obama would "hurry up and vote faster," so you must be pretty happy that he reacted so quickly. >> i am, i feel so empowered. >> i mean, a big day for every -- every gay american. a big day for every american in many ways, whatever reaction you had to it. how do you feel when you heard the news? >> you know it is a little bitter sweet, i am in north carolina, and from north carolina, i was disappointed the way the initiative vote went here in north carolina. but it is very promising to hear
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president obama finally come up and speak out about something that is so important. and i think the ground swell, the energy that is behind a lot of activists and the people who were so important in the vote here yesterday in north carolina, that energy made its way to washington. and president obama realized that this was a time to speak up. and to speak out on the freedom for everyone to marry. >> do you think homosexuality is a sin? >> i think that it is unnatural. i think that it is -- it is detrimental and ultimately destructive to the country. >> so what do you do if your kid said they were gay? >> i would sit down and have a heart to heart with them. >> well, if one of my son sat down and said to me, i would say that is great son, as long as
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you're happy. what would you say? >> well, i wouldn't say that is great, son, as long as your happy. there is all sorts of issue that we need to wrestle through, just because you feel a way doesn't mean you should act the way you feel. >> some say telling kids that being gay and getting married is a sin, that in itself is destructive, in a country where seven states have legalized it. >> but you have to understand that you yourself are using a standard of more morality, you're using a standard of morality and making that statement, saying that it is destructive -- everybody is going to have a standard. >> no, no, no, i'm making the point that seven states in america have now legalized gay marriage. >> well, piers, you're speaking to a man who is a christian, i believe all of us are sinful. i could stand at the top of the list and say i need a savior and
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an overhaul of the heart more than anyone, that is what i teach my kids, i teach them the values that i hold dear. >> kirk cameron -- talk about growing pains. what i was struck by is it wasn't so much he was opposed to it. it was the language he used. so violent, a gay life-style, destructive to civilization. what? people could still feel that. >> i know, it is shocking. and again, like i have lived in new york and california most of my life. i was raised in new mexico. and certainly a lot of people there still feel that way. and i do forget that there are so many parts of our nation that feel that way. but i think a lot of it is just -- really lack of knowledge. >> something extraordinary happened on tuesday, as voters in colorado and washington state said yes to legalizing marijuana. for recreational use.
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it is a stunning move. and when you last did an interview with this show, larry king was the host. and you admitted to him half way through that you were actually high at the time. you had infused yourself -- with some marijuana. so i have got to ask you the question, if you have -- have you come similarly unfused today? >> what is today? >> it could be any day in life. >> yeah, okay. >> did you wake up this morning and have a quick o-- >> well, i probably did, if i remember, it is that short term stuff. >> do you take a lot of it? >> i think some people have more tolerance, you know, for smoking pot than others. and i know people that can take one hit and just go to sleep completely. and other guys that can smoke a lot. you know, me and snoop smoke a
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lot in every country we have been in. i was in amsterdam, and he calls and said, come over. we recorded a song together. >> you and snoop go to amsterdam, the mecca of dope, really, and write some music after taking it. >> now we can go to colorado. >> and coming back, from two very different spiritual leaders.
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as 2012 comes to an end, let's leave you from some encouraging words from two of the best known spiritual leaders i've known. we're here to discuss the world peace summit, which you have been asked to speak at. do you think the world is a more peaceful place now than it was when you first became dalai lama? >> oh, yes. the fundamental level, i think in today's world, much better. at least where it disappears in war, and eventually big change
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happened. so at least the two both have their nuclear weapon ready to shoot each other. that kind of danger is now no longer. some violence -- very sad, but compare, during that period's danger, i think still today i think much better. then i think it is important -- i think, although the word "peace" is something almost becomes a fashion. peace, peace, peace, even those -- some people who really are making every preparation for war, but they use the word peace, peace, peace. >> what i wonder is what do you do -- this is a very smart premise, youak